LATOC is no longer there, the link points to astrology stuff...he had the best short description of the PO problem on the 'net...and a lot of archived work that is gone 4ever...oh well,...
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LATOC is no longer there, the link points to astrology stuff...he had the best short description of the PO problem on the 'net...and a lot of archived work that is gone 4ever...oh well,...
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WTF happened to Matt???
Strange stuff.
The forum is still there.
I've had the bug-out-bag thread open here all day, working my way through it slowly. Man, that was a GOOD thread!
I hope its still there.
Uranus is exploding into Aries. According to Matt. Of what value is the knowledge of PO when compared to THAT!
Lash;
I hate the very notion of censorship, but...damn Dude, try to control yourself...these fantasies of exploding anuses belong in some other venue...just sayin'...
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I can't get it to come up, just a bunch of astrology pages...I"ll try going through google...
Here's the address of the forums: http://www.doomers.us/forum2/
lifeaftertheoilcrash.net points to the astrology stuff. The forum is still open and frozen at October 23rd. I wish he would delete the forum, too.
It will disappear someday, becoming but a dim memory which Matt will gladly pretend never happened as he works his way through home ownership, wife and kids perhaps, member of the Chamber of Commerce, perhaps local state representative, and finally will switch parties from the local Greens to Republican, advocating less taxes for small businessmen and such, perhaps dropping the minimum wage or his local property taxes.
And I didn't even need a ouija board or astrology chart!
Damn Lash, from uberporn to biting personal political commentary in 2 posts!!! That's quite a a rep-per-twah, ya' got there...a person of great mental agility...were you on LATOC? I can usually spot blogging styles, but you've got me stumped...
It's like a tsunami wiping an entire community off the landscape. I don't mean to belittle the Japanese debacle at all. It's just that I really cared about that place at one time.
LISTEN TO WHAT THEY SAY BUT WATCH WHAT THEY DO
was never more appropriate.
Awwwwwww.
Just tried it and yep, not there.
That's really really sad.
Bummer.
We should start referring to it as "The site which must not be named".
Makes me want to get a big bag of dog poo, light it on fire, and ring Matt's doorbell.
sucks
*wipes away a single tear*
*sniff*
*sniff*
The worst part is that LATOC drew in a HUGE number of lurkers, many of whom were probably wrestling with trying to accept the whole concept. It was THE site for doomers and Peak Oilers to share information and was linked on more "respectable" sites like Mish's Global Econ Trend Analysis (which is how I found it) and Of Two Minds. If you started a good thread over there you could count on 1000 page views. Most topics on the spin off sites do well to get a tenth of that number.
In essence, Matt nuked a whole community and made it much more difficult for us to get the word out just as things on the Peak Oil front are really starting to heat up. That was his right as it was his site, but it is also now his legacy.
Bummer anyway. Kinda like TOD giving up the Campfire series.
Oil crash survival strategy to avoid:
1) Gather together 20,000 to 50,000 people, and convince a large portion of them to be regular viewers of your website.
2) Make sure they know who you are, what you look like, where you live, etc.
3) Make sure they they get really invested in your pov and spend hundreds of hours per person on your site.
4) Tell them all to go #%^* themselves.
lmao what the hell :p
Well said, Bill.
thanks Grower; I'm really glad that you post on this site!
Eta: I just realized that you may have been reading bill hicks (excellent) post while I was writing... either way, thanks Alex once again for setting up this great site!
Well.... at least, maybe..... TPTB won't be looking there FIRST for all the people who might be "non-mainstreamers" or "rebels" or "terrorists" or whatever label they might be wanting to subscribe to non-traditional [aka party-line] thinkers. Don't get me wrong - I'm not on anyone's "side" - but perhaps, just perhaps, having that forum wiped could be a reprieve no one is thinking about. It might just grant a few extra days of "investigation" time for those needing it.
==I know - perhaps, just perhaps - I'll be regretting this post or will get a ration of S**T for it, but, there it is== (mods - delete if controversial)
I enjoyed La**c while it existed and now I find my connections hither-wise. I'm sure many/most of you have done the same. Why not let what has passed, be past?
Jock over at Hubbert's Arms has the whole LATOC forum archived as far as I know. He kindly offer to look something up for me a while back.
It makes me wonder what became of a lot of people...
Here is an archived version at the Internet Archive.
Nothing ever goes away, Diogenes searches under every stone for an honest man and the truth ;~)
http://replay.waybackmachine.org/200...c,18743.0.html
Thanks m68k, and welcome! I haven't ventured back there at all, but just took a peek, and got a lump in my throat. Finding Matt's site in 2004 was a life changer for me and I hope that those 1000s of lurkers used the information to make better life choices, too.
I know Jock backed it all up, because when the site started having big problems after the GOM disaster, he backed it up each morning. We discussed that the work done in the Live Feed thread should be archived for posterity, just in case BP managed to shut down every other source. I still think they got to Matt somehow. Anyway, it's good to know Jock has it. :)
I'm sure the government has it backed up along with all our personal contact info! So, it can't be shared. Matt always said he claimed to copright to anything written there and in fact the posts we all made are ours anyway.
I think that most of us (speaking for the lurkers) are still around even though we are a bit more diffuse than we were. I, myself don't spend but a fraction of the time I spent there on any of the other places that came after. We move on. Besides, we now seem to be living the stuff that we talked about over there. Always know that I and many others will always remain in contact with all you guys one way or another. You are all family fer cryin' out loud.
All I know is that, for me, the two most recent, and profound, losses in my life were Matt Simmons' murder and the hideous closure of LATOC. Since then, I've had a difficult time rebounding.
And even though I've prepped as much as I possibly can, given where I live, my life circumstance and my age, I feel disconnected from those posters on LATOC who have helped me so much, particularly with the challenges I faced with my unresponsive and asleep children. And, too, even though I know that those people who so generously gave of themselves on LATOC are now gathered on various forums, it's particularly difficult for me to follow any of them, given the disparate meeting places where they congregate. But I keep trying.
What a loss.
I moved to this place and Ruppert's CollapseNet.
I have Matt's introduction as a pdf on my site: http://www.peakoil.dk/introduction.pdf (have made a few copy/paste errors though).
Just the mention of his name "Matt" and the cold and callous way he treated his long time board members makes me sick. Screw him and his pompous attitude. After seeing what he really thought of his members that showed me he was not part of the solution or the enlightenment of others but he was part of the problem itself............................................ Bruce