Old LATOC members?

[woodsy_gardener]

What do you envision this collapse to look like? I don't have a good idea, but my view has evolved over the past couple decades as I recognized the system is more robust and resilient than I had thought. I find it hard to imagine how it could be worse than has has occurred in places like ukraine, syria, or lebanon. And the circumstances in those places are much worse than in the UK and US so wouldn't expect it to get that bad here.

We live in a highly networked society with the inertia to absorb failures but if the failures come faster than they can be resolved the failures cascade and system collapse follows. The population bomb, climate surprises, pollution of all kinds, political clowns and thieves, etc are black swans coming home to roost. War, starvation, disease, murder, and suicide will reduce the human population of the planet to less than 1 billion maybe a little more if we're lucky. Interesting times indeed!

[houseoftang]

We live in a highly networked society with the inertia to absorb failures but if the failures come faster than they can be resolved the failures cascade and system collapse follows. The population bomb, climate surprises, pollution of all kinds, political clowns and thieves, etc are black swans coming home to roost. War, starvation, disease, murder, and suicide will reduce the human population of the planet to less than 1 billion maybe a little more if we're lucky. Interesting times indeed!

Also, I think people in the US feel more entitled and are less tolerant of hardship, so they will turn to violence faster than people in countries with a more active memory of what real hardship is like.