Ok well, the good news is we are back. the bad news is that the entire server move (5+ gigs) was taking way too long.
sooooo, we will do this a different way.
I didnt want to leave this site down for another 3-4 hours because of the other forums.

My apologies for the down time tonight... but we'll get this moved over shortly.

I am no good with down time... I pace a lot :-(